As a woman in my sixties, I never thought I’d say feminism is a bane to women, and to men too. But I see it now in retrospect. It’s a topic that not much of anyone in either the reformed or the charismatic camps will agree. As you said, the camel has fully entered the tent.
I served as an elder for nearly three years. As I studied God’s word more deeply, the more convicted and uncomfortable I became. I stepped down. What a load off! A significant thwart in the church as a whole is having men who are willing to serve and meet Paul’s requirements in 1 Timothy. It is possible, but it’s also a challenge.
Hey Michael. What exactly do you think is wrong with the way that John Piper talks about/discusses gender roles? Like, you mentioned in the article about Biblical manhood and womanhood and how they are different being rooted in the masculinity/Fatherhood of God himself but everything I’ve listened to by Piper, it seems like he’d agree with you. I say that as someone who’s likely going to be making a hard push to get married here pretty soon (should have done this years ago, I’m 37). So I need to know what I’m supposed to do in a marriage. I do admit I need to read the book that Piper and Wayne Grudem wrote on these topics which I was going to be ordering soon.
If I can make a suggestion, I wrote a book on sexuality that makes the argument in this post. The book is addresses theological subjects with an easy to read style and a pastor's heart. As a man who's about to get married, this book would help give you and your fiance a good foundation to build from. I use it for premarital counseling.
Hey Michael. Thanks for the suggestion. I’m in two D-groups currently (even though oddly enough I’m not a member of a church anywhere because the church I was part of just voted to disband) reading through two different books with some guys that I used to go to church with. One of the books we are almost finished with and I was planning on going through your book next.
The CREC just planted a church close to where I live at and I’ve been attending that one. The liturgy is rich and it’s very powerful. The way they do communion, it’s one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.
Good question. Yes, Piper would probably agree with how I framed the argument. The issue isn't so much with Piper as it is the Danver's statement, which contains the explicit affirmations of complementarianism. Danvers only affirms male headship in the home and church, while not addressing male leadership in society. It also argues on the basis of a couple of prooftexts, without grounding the argument in nature. So Danvers is true but doesn't go far enough, which makes it vulnerable to egalitarianism/feminism.
As a woman in my sixties, I never thought I’d say feminism is a bane to women, and to men too. But I see it now in retrospect. It’s a topic that not much of anyone in either the reformed or the charismatic camps will agree. As you said, the camel has fully entered the tent.
I served as an elder for nearly three years. As I studied God’s word more deeply, the more convicted and uncomfortable I became. I stepped down. What a load off! A significant thwart in the church as a whole is having men who are willing to serve and meet Paul’s requirements in 1 Timothy. It is possible, but it’s also a challenge.
Wow! Praise the Lord for this testimony.
Hey Michael. What exactly do you think is wrong with the way that John Piper talks about/discusses gender roles? Like, you mentioned in the article about Biblical manhood and womanhood and how they are different being rooted in the masculinity/Fatherhood of God himself but everything I’ve listened to by Piper, it seems like he’d agree with you. I say that as someone who’s likely going to be making a hard push to get married here pretty soon (should have done this years ago, I’m 37). So I need to know what I’m supposed to do in a marriage. I do admit I need to read the book that Piper and Wayne Grudem wrote on these topics which I was going to be ordering soon.
If I can make a suggestion, I wrote a book on sexuality that makes the argument in this post. The book is addresses theological subjects with an easy to read style and a pastor's heart. As a man who's about to get married, this book would help give you and your fiance a good foundation to build from. I use it for premarital counseling.
Link is here if you're interested.
https://a.co/d/6uqbSZJ
PS - Congratulations!
Hey Michael. Thanks for the suggestion. I’m in two D-groups currently (even though oddly enough I’m not a member of a church anywhere because the church I was part of just voted to disband) reading through two different books with some guys that I used to go to church with. One of the books we are almost finished with and I was planning on going through your book next.
The CREC just planted a church close to where I live at and I’ve been attending that one. The liturgy is rich and it’s very powerful. The way they do communion, it’s one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.
Glad you’ve found a CREC church to go. I pray the Lord blesses your relationship and future marriage!
Good question. Yes, Piper would probably agree with how I framed the argument. The issue isn't so much with Piper as it is the Danver's statement, which contains the explicit affirmations of complementarianism. Danvers only affirms male headship in the home and church, while not addressing male leadership in society. It also argues on the basis of a couple of prooftexts, without grounding the argument in nature. So Danvers is true but doesn't go far enough, which makes it vulnerable to egalitarianism/feminism.